From glenn.jones at madgex.com Fri Apr 1 03:51:37 2011 From: glenn.jones at madgex.com (Glenn Jones) Date: Fri Apr 1 03:51:45 2011 Subject: [uf-discuss] UK meet-up Tues April 12 - Brighton Message-ID: <36A319113CF910438942741C4727ADFF059CFBED@MOBY.Clarence.local> Hi All The meetup is going part social and part workshop to brainstorm the input micorformat ideas. It's open to everyone who's interested in microformats and semantic mark-up. If you are just want to join us for the social element that's cool the current plan is keep the brainstorming and discussion part to about an hour at the beginning of the evening. http://microformats.org/wiki/events/2011-04-uk http://lanyrd.com/2011/ufukmeet-april11/ When 2011-03-12 from 19:30 to 23:00 Where Greene Room, The Cricketers Pub, Black Lion Street, Brighton, BN1 1ND, UK As most people who said they who attended came from the Brighton area, we have organised the event in Brighton, but it would be really nice to see as many people as possible. Brighton is only 50 mins from London by train and 4 leave Brighton every hour until 23:37. If your thinking of attending please add your name to the wiki/lanyrd so I can get idea on numbers. Hope to see you there Glenn Jones From glenn.jones at madgex.com Wed Apr 6 02:12:03 2011 From: glenn.jones at madgex.com (Glenn Jones) Date: Wed Apr 6 02:12:08 2011 Subject: [uf-discuss] Experimental Firefox and Chrome extensions to copy and paste contacts Message-ID: <36A319113CF910438942741C4727ADFF05A72471@MOBY.Clarence.local> Hi All Just put a couple of experimental Firefox and Chrome extensions up on my blog that allow you to copy and paste hCards into form. The code is from a larger project I am building, thought it would be interesting in light of the discussions about marking up forms with microformats. http://glennjones.net/2011/04/contact-extensions/ Glenn From glenn.jones at madgex.com Sat Apr 23 01:43:03 2011 From: glenn.jones at madgex.com (Glenn Jones) Date: Sat Apr 23 01:43:21 2011 Subject: [uf-discuss] Proposal for 'repeatable' class - Comments and suggestions needed Message-ID: <36A319113CF910438942741C4727ADFF05B535DD@MOBY.Clarence.local> Hi All At the recent Brighton meet-up we discussed the use of microformats to mark up forms. The only major point of disagreement seemed to be over the proposed "repeatable" class. This class would be used to demark parts of forms that can be repeated, so users can pick multiples of one item. I have tried to gather together the evidence for why I think this is an important authoring pattern that needs to be addressed. It would be great to hear different views on this and alternative solutions. I have added a wiki page with the information please feel free to edit it. http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-input-repeatable Below is the current content of the page: ? ? Evidence of repeating sub form patterns in the wild This commonly used authoring pattern allows a user to add multiples of one item. The UI often has a JavaScript text link offering to add another form element or group forms i.e. "Add another email address". The additional form elements are nearly always added using JavaScript. This type of UI is most commonly used in social network profile pages and web based address book applications. As the examples below are a complex mixture of HTML, CSS and JavaScript it's not possible to copy the code into the wiki. Instead I have listed a number of high profile sites that use this UI design and the current elements where they are allowing the user to add multiples of one item. https://profiles.google.com/ profile edit page - Emails, Addresses, Phones, URLs, Employment, Education http://www.plaxo.com/ profile edit page - Emails, Addresses, Phones, IM, Webpages http://www.facebook.com/ profile edit page - Employment, Education, Interests, Emails, IM, Phones http://address.mail.yahoo.com/ edit contact page - Email, Address, URLs, Phone, IM, URLs, Birthdays (dates), Notes https://mail.google.com/ edit contact page - Email Phone Address, Birthdays (dates), URLs ? Evidence of repeater patterns in declarative languages There are examples of declarative languages that have repeatable attributes or elements - i.e. or . They do tend to be where data binding is an integral part of the mark-up. ASPX http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/x4s0xktt(v=VS.71).aspx ? XFORMS https://developer.mozilla.org/en/XForms/User_Interface_Elements/Repeat FLEX http://livedocs.adobe.com/flex/3/html/help.html?content=repeater_3.html ? Current Proposal When more than one item is stored in the pasted data and the corresponding HTML element has the "repeatable" class, an auto-fill application will duplicate the whole DOM node and append it as a sibling underneath the original. ? If we had two emails in the data, the auto-fill application would produce the DOM structure below, from the mark-up above. ? ? I know that forms constructed this way are so complex it may not be practical to use this repeatable feature idea, but it does provide a level of authoring flexibility which seems appropriate for a large number of use cases. Without it the full proposal for marking up forms with microformats becomes quite a bit weaker. The word repeater seems a good label in line with the original W3C description for the use of the class attribute. Thanks Glenn From john at johnbeales.com Wed Apr 27 20:54:44 2011 From: john at johnbeales.com (John Beales) Date: Wed Apr 27 20:54:54 2011 Subject: [uf-discuss] Wiki Vandalized... Message-ID: Hey All, I'm not sure where I'm supposed to post this, but it appears that the wiki's been vandalized. See these pages, (there may be more): http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=On_using_Steroids_vs._Performance-Enhancing_Supplements&rcid=56954 http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=A_Women%27s_Guide_to_Buying_Designer_Jeans&rcid=56955 http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Popular_For_Many_Reasons&rcid=56956 http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=every_one_of_us_regularly&rcid=56957 http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Beautiful_Chanel_Designer_Handbags&rcid=56958 - John From brian.suda at gmail.com Thu Apr 28 02:51:01 2011 From: brian.suda at gmail.com (Brian Suda) Date: Thu Apr 28 02:55:08 2011 Subject: [uf-discuss] Wiki Vandalized... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 3:54 AM, John Beales wrote: > Hey All, > > I'm not sure where I'm supposed to post this, but it appears that the wiki's been vandalized. See these pages, (there may be more): Thanks for the heads-up. I have removed the pages and blocked the bot. -brian -- brian suda http://suda.co.uk From tom at tommorris.org Thu Apr 28 03:45:40 2011 From: tom at tommorris.org (Tom Morris) Date: Thu Apr 28 03:46:06 2011 Subject: [uf-discuss] Wiki Vandalized... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:51, Brian Suda wrote: > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 3:54 AM, John Beales wrote: >> Hey All, >> >> I'm not sure where I'm supposed to post this, but it appears that the wiki's been vandalized. See these pages, (there may be more): > > Thanks for the heads-up. I have removed the pages and blocked the bot. > I've got some experience with MediaWiki, and I'm sure a few others in the community have likewise. To protect against potential problems in the future, might it be an idea to have a few people from the community sysopped to respond to spam. Administrative redundancy on MediaWiki wikis is a wise policy. -- Tom Morris Please don't print this e-mail out unless you want a hard copy of it. If you do, go ahead. I won't stop you.