From grosser.meister.morti at gmx.net  Mon Feb 13 07:42:39 2012
From: grosser.meister.morti at gmx.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mathias_Panzenb=F6ck?=)
Date: Mon Feb 13 07:43:25 2012
Subject: [uf-discuss] hAudio and HTML5 audio element
Message-ID: <4F392F6F.4070202@gmx.net>

Hi.

I'm new here and hope to have done everything like it is meant to be. I've added a new issue to the 
hAudio issues:
http://microformats.org/wiki/haudio-issues#D10:_2012-02-13__hAudio_sample_and_enclosure_should_support_HTML5_audio

What do you think? I think it would make sense to add the option to write the sample/enclosure as 
audio element with a special class instead of a link with a special rel attribute.

Another thing I noticed, but for which I haven't written an issue (yet) is the "position":
http://microformats.org/wiki/haudio#Position

The spec says it describes the position of the hAudio item in a list. "Examples of hAudio lists can 
include album track listings, music top 10 lists, playlists, and podcast chapters." So it is 
ambiguous to what position it actually describes. I want to generate playlists in which I add to 
each hAudio item *not* the position it has in the playlist (this I want to be inferred from the 
position in the HTML file), but explicitly the position the song has in its associated album.

How would I do that? If it's not possible with the current schema I would propose a new element 
"trackNum" taken from XSPF:
http://www.xspf.org/orig-xspf-v1.html#rfc.section.4.1.1.2.14.1.1.1.9

Also I'd like to be able to put several playlists into a single HTML file and give each playlist a 
name. Maybe something like this?:

<div class="hplaylist">
   <h2 class="fn">Some Songs from Magnatune.com</h2>

   <ol>
     <li class="haudio">
       <span class="contributor">Timothy Vajda</span> -
       <span class="album">Bootstrap Physics</span> -
       <span class="trackNum">09</span> -
       <span class="fn">As The Crow Flies</span> <audio controls class="sample" preload="none"
         src="http://he3.magnatune.com/all/09-As%20The%20Crow%20Flies-Timothy%20Vajda.mp3"/></li>

     <li class="haudio">
       <span class="contributor">Shira Kammen</span> -
       <span class="album">Music of Waters</span> -
       <span class="trackNum">02</span> -
       <span class="fn">Downstream</span> <audio controls class="sample" preload="none"
         src="http://he3.magnatune.com/all/02-Downstream-Shira%20Kammen.mp3"/></li>

     <li class="haudio">
       <span class="contributor">Jami Sieber</span> -
       <span class="album">Hidden Sky</span> -
       <span class="trackNum">01</span> -
       <span class="fn">Maenam</span> <audio controls class="sample" preload="none"
         src="http://he3.magnatune.com/all/01-Maenam-Jami%20Sieber.mp3"/></li>
   </ol>
</div>


So what do you think? I'd use it in the HTML export feature in this experiment of mine:
http://tinyurl.com/magnatune-player/

	-panzi
From glenn.jones at madgex.com  Tue Feb 14 05:04:38 2012
From: glenn.jones at madgex.com (Glenn Jones)
Date: Tue Feb 14 05:04:47 2012
Subject: [uf-discuss] microformats and seo - numbers
Message-ID: <36A319113CF910438942741C4727ADFF06D95765@MOBY.Clarence.local>

Hi All

I am going to be doing a presentation on microformats at a SEO
conference in a few weeks. Last time I did this talk the Q&A was full of
question asking for figures on the effectiveness of rich snippets at
increasing site traffic. 

Does anyone know of any quantitative research on this subject.  I have
had a quick look on the web and cannot find anything.

Cheers
Glenn Jones

PS old version of the tal, if your interested -
http://www.slideshare.net/glennjones/microformats-and-seo